The Grand Conspiracy

Posted: March 20, 2019 in Consciousness, Conspiracy, Idle Nonsense, Media
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This is about to get weird.

I caught a good portion of a recent Joe Rogan podcast (sorry, no link or embedded video) with Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo (nearly 5 hours long instead of the usual 2 to 3) where the trio indulged themselves in a purported grand conspiracy to destroy civilization and establish a new post-human one. The more Jones rants speaks (which is quite a lot), the more he sounds like a madman. But he insists he does so to serve the public. He sincerely wants people to know things he’s figured out about an evil cabal of New World Order types. So let me say at least this: “Alex Jones, I hear you.” But I’m unconvinced. Apologies to Alex Jones et al. if I got any details wrong. For instance, it’s not clear to me whether Jones believes this stuff himself or he’s merely reporting what others may believe.

The grand conspiracy is supposedly interdimensional beings operating at a subliminal range below or beyond normal human perception. Perhaps they revealed themselves to a few individuals (to the cognoscenti, ya know, or is that shared revelation how one is inducted into the cognoscenti?). Rogan believes that ecstatic states induced by drugs provide access to revelation, like tuning a radio to the correct (but secret) frequency. Whatever exists in that altered cognitive state appears like a dream and is difficult to understand or remember. The overwhelming impression Rogan reports as lasting is of a distinct nonhuman presence.

Maybe I’m not quite as barking mad as Jones or as credulous as Rogan and Bravo, but I have to point out that humans are interdimensional beings. We move through three dimensions of space and one unidirectional dimension of time. If that doesn’t quite make sense, then I refer readers to Edwin Abbott’s well-known book Flatland. Abbott describes what it might be like for conscious beings in only two dimensions of space (or one). Similarly, for most of nature outside of vertebrates, it’s understood that consciousness, if it exists at all (e.g., not in plants), is so rudimentary that there is no durable sense of time. Beings exist in an eternal now (could be several seconds long/wide/tall — enough to function) without memory or anticipation. With that in mind, the possibility of multidimensional beings in 5+ dimensions completely imperceptible to us doesn’t bother me in the least. The same is true of the multiverse or many-worlds interpretation. What bothers me is that such beings would bother with us, especially with a conspiracy to crash civilization.

The other possibility at which I roll my eyes is a post-human future: specifically, a future when one’s consciousness escapes its biological boundaries. The common trope is that one’s mind is uploaded to a computer to exist in the ether. Another is that one transcends death somehow with intention and purpose instead of simply ceasing to be (as atheists believe) or some variation of the far more common religious heaven/hell/purgatory myth. This relates as well to the supposition of strong AI about to spark (the Singularity): self-awareness and intelligent thought that can exist on some substrate other than human biology (the nervous system, really, including the brain). Sure, cognition can be simulated for some specific tasks like playing chess or go, and we humans can be fooled easily into believing we are communicating with a thought machine à la the Turing Test. But the rather shocking sophistication, range, utility, and adaptability of even routine human consciousness is so far beyond any current simulation that the usual solution to get engineers from where they are now to real, true, strong AI is always “and then a miracle happened.” The easy, obvious route/accident is typically a power surge (e.g., a lightning strike).

Why bother with mere humans is a good question if one is post-human or an interdimensional being. It could well be that existence in such a realm would make watching human interactions either impenetrable (news flash, they are already) or akin to watching through a dim screen. That familiar trope is the lost soul imprisoned in the spirit world, a parallel dimension that permits viewing from one side only but prohibits contact except perhaps through psychic mediums (if you believe in such folks — Rogan for one doesn’t).

The one idea worth repeating from the podcast is the warning not to discount all conspiracy theories out of hand as bunk. At least a few have been demonstrated to be true. Whether any of the sites behind that link are to be believed I leave you readers to judge.

Addendum: Although a couple comments came in, no one puzzled over the primary piece I had to add, namely, that we humans are interdimentional beings. The YouTube video below depicts a portion of the math/science behind my statement, showing how at least two topographical surfaces behave paradoxically when limited to 2 or 3 dimensions but theoretically cohere in 4+ dimensions imperceptible to us.

  1. Such a heroic sacrifice for your readers, Brutus! You slogged through 5 hours of that podcast and distilled it down to a 5-minute read for us. Like the classic movie review: I laughed, I cried.

    We have an acquaintance, who also lives in Chicago, who is one of those firm believers in the ascendancy of humanity into an almost immortal state. When we ask the altogether reasonable question, “why would you want to live that long?” He seems as uneasy that we might feel that way as we do the he does.


    • Brutus says:

      I only blogged about this because I had a couple unorthodox things to say. Didn’t realize I was performing a Cliff Notes service to readers without 5 hours to spare.

      With respect to your other Chicago acquaintance, our mortality is one of the things that defines us and makes time on earth valuable. We all desire a reasonable lifespan, but at some point, waiting for the end becomes burdensome. I recall reading somewhere that most centenarians are despairingly lonely and ignored; all of their friends and some family (siblings, children) died decades ago. The prospect of extraordinary long life, not to mention immortality, only causes me to warn: be careful what you wish for.

  2. John Eagan says:

    I just read this, a bit late. I did actually sit through that episode. Well, to be honest, I let it run while I did some things puttering around spending periods of time paying more or less attention. I have been a fan of Rogan’s podcast for a while. Regarding Jones; he is a nut, but he does seem to be a nut that actually gets the truth of some things through now and then. It is unfortunate that a lot of people take a ridiculously simplistic and often distorted view of the guy, largely a case of not saying what they actually think about him as much they repeat what they have been told to think about him.

    In among those stretches where I would listen and think “oh boy, strap in, kids, where is THIS gonna go?”… on the whole interdimensional beings covertly running the show… my sense of it is that he does genuinely believe it, rather than a case of just reporting what some people have told him.

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